April 21, 2014

Would Our Own Military Shoot At American Citizens?

Grab a cup of coffee and read this interesting but very long article that contemplates military action against American citizens should domestic civil unrest or violence ensue, all fomented  by “political reactionaries” (read: Tea Party types, of course).  The Washington Times, in turn, editorializes on the same article a few days later. All very interesting, if not plain scary.  Be sure to read the comments at the end of the first article, if you make it that far.

The authors describe a scenario taking place in (of all places) a SC town where the unrest first occurs:

“In May 2016 an extremist militia motivated by the goals of the “tea party” movement takes over the government of Darlington, South Carolina, occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council, and placing the mayor under house arrest.  Activists remove the chief of police and either disarm local police and county sheriff departments or discourage them from interfering…..”

Upon reflection, I can only say, Sheesh!  As I managed to wade through this, it became apparent to me that these two authors are little more than liberal nut jobs, not unlike the typical doofusses that populate MSNBC, but with an abundance of “alphabet degrees” and alleged experience that might seem to give them some intellectual legitimacy. That they are earning a living writing this crap amazes me. They assume that Obama is defeated in 2012 (a delightful prospect), his successor makes a worse mess of the economy, and the Tea Party types react, attempt to overthrow the government and the military is called in.  If Obama is defeated (rather, WHEN he is defeated), the only credible threat to domestic tranquility, in my estimation, is from the cancerous “parasite class” whose government handouts come to an end,  and the realization that they might actually have to work for a living causes them to react violently.  The Occupy movement was the tip of this iceberg.

My friend Dr. G’s take on all of this follows:

There are various doomsday scenarios imagined/contemplated/talked about when a group of folks get together over cigars and speculation.  The decline of American ascendancy; the promulgation of class and racial conflict accelerating the fragmentation and Balkanization of American society, the lawlessness of Government at many levels; the falling standard of living and expectations for the future;  you know the drill…there are so many others….in the end they ultimately lead to a common point, the possible vs. likely breakdown of the social self control and civil disorder on a mass scale.  Tell me that  you’ve not thought of this possibility, if you can.  If you are able to do so, I think you’re a very unusual person or lying to yourself.  In Charlotte, for the time of the DNC in September, our Police Department has been planning for a version of this for a year.

In the end, the discussions come down to the question  “will the U.S. Armed Forces fire upon American citizens in their own cities and homes?”

Read this chilling article….but especially read the comments.  I find it amazing that the War Gaming includes Tea Party supporters with the alleged racist motivated KKK and openly War Games the ultimate Power of the State to be used against them/us so willingly, apparently without consideration of the next phase, the bloody rebellion spoken of in the comments.  The results will make Quantrill’s Raid of 150 years ago look like a garden party.  You’d think that persons associated with U. Kansas in Lawrence, KS  might have considered that outcome. 

Some of the participants in the Scenario Speculation are truly nut jobs……but here are “respected” academics ,military trainers and- lecturers etc giving explanations and excuses for exactly what the craziest among us predict “they’ll” do. 

I’m not sure “chilling” does it justice.


After working 32 enjoyable years for a major oil/chemical company, I am now semi-retired, working part time, and learning as much as I can about the dangers of left wing policies, and sharing info with others. The future of our country lies in our hands, and I’m not willing to turn it over to the leftie elites. As Ronald Reagan once said of how he defines “Victory”: We win. They Lose.

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  1. MissLiberty says:

    Well done, RD, it’s a load of baloney but it sure does have some people in a twist. At various times over the past three years, I have heard people opine as to whether or not the US military would turn against the people on Obama’s orders. Really? Apparently those who believe that don’t have much experience with those who serve or have served in the military.

  2. General Livingston tonight addressed this question he reminded us that the military and national guard troops take an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and he is confident that the vast majority will do exactly that. If given ILLEGAL orders to fire on American citizens, those men of honor will refuse. I trust my life in the hands of the American military much more than I trust ANY politician.

  3. Johnny says:

    I take exception to a few things stated here in this offering-
    I’ll start with the term “parasite class”… If you’re speaking of the corporate tools who rake in Billions of tax dollars while paying ZERO taxes themselves, I agree- If, on the other hand, you’re talking about the old people, the sick and disabled, then you area terribly cynical person who doesn’t deserve a place to blog at all-

    Now, about whether or not the US military would fire on American citizens if given the order- Well, hell yes they would, and already have, many times throughout American history- If you don’t think so, than you are either a fool or you are ignorant of our own history-

    Wake up- stop looking at everything as being right vs left and start seeing things as right vs wrong-

  4. eatthis says:

    US or federal troops mass murdered those Americans in the southern states for refusing to be arbitrarily taxed by the feds(war of northern agression 1860′s). There was the Kent state kids murdered by US troops or fed troops. Ruby ridge…more murdering by fed troops. Waco…lots of murder by American troops. Is it a milion or two million brown people the American troops have murdered in the mideast to date. Almost forgot, American soldiers nuked and mass murdered a vast number of Japs…twice!

    American soldiers killing Americans on American soil? Absolutely has happened and will most likely happen in a big way in the future.

  5. Bob says:

    Typical right wing moon bats….convienent that you forget that Bush, via FEMA, used military approved and trained mercenaries to disarm residents of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Believe it or not, people wondering if the military would fire on on their own countrymen did NOT start with the Obama admin. I’m surprised you people aren’t eating Reagan’s body as some sort of cultish communion ritual. Freaking jug-blowers.

  6. MissLiberty says:

    I’m with you, Elaine, but it’s nice to see the inbreds are engaged on the topic as well.

  7. Donny says:

    The better question is: What US military personnel will be heros and come to the aid of what America is supposed to stand for? Someone better clue them in. They may do the bidding of the evil, but they won’t always be military. When they are not, guess what rule they will be under. Evil has no loyalty. If our military shoots Americans, they will be next…don’t take my word for it…you will find out if you go against the very thing you are supposed to defend. The Constitution of the United States.

  8. Drutch says:

    Ever hear of Continuity of Government? Will US military fire upon US citizens again? Absolutely. US Police forces are being trinaed for military style combat as we speak. Something wicked this way comes in October. Both military and police sources have independently confirmed this. There has also been a call to arms on Oct 1st through the same channels that spawned the Occupy movement. If you aren’t prepared it is already too late. Hedges are being placed across the board, major banks have been told to prepare for collapse. I have only one bit of advice, when they come for your guns fight to the death. It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

  9. Greg Burton says:

    Would ordinary American military shoot their own neighbors? No, but privatized troops, “al Qaeda” cadres like those used in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria; trained in places like Mexico, would.

  10. TOM PAYNE says:

    Sorry, folks, but the youngsters in the military today are morons. The stupid little snits will kill your ass if ordered to so and will do it joyfully. You can no longer depend on the US military to be your friend. Be prepared to kill as many as you can before they kill you.

  11. RightDog says:

    Whew! There are more left wing lurkers out there than I ever imagined! Seems that this topic lured a couple of military haters (as most lefties are) out of the shadows.

    @Johnny, by parasite class, I am talking about able bodied people that are not working, either because the gov’t is handing out 99 weeks of unemployment checks not to work, or the kids that are being carried by mommy and daddy because they are lazy, or welfare queens that are churning out kids and getting paid for it. I don’t include the 47% of people that do earn a paycheck but don’t pay a cent in federal income taxes, due to democrats designing the tax code that way to buy votes. At at least they are working. I don’t include senior citizens that have worked hard all their lives and have earned their place, nor do I include the physically or mentally incapacitated. Obviously, like most lefties, you hate people that are successful and that are smart enough to take advantage to their own benefit of the tax code that the idiots in Congress have given us.

  12. eatthis says:

    Speaking of welfare: the US military is on welfare. That’s right. Every marine, army, airforce, etc is a welfare case. See the government funds its murderers by stealing from you and me first.

  13. RightDog says:

    @eatthis, you seem typical of most lefties (even some Paulbots I know) that loathe the military and consider its members to be out of control child killing agressors. Equating military members, who must be able-bodied to serve, with able-bodied welfare recipients is ridiculous. These people are volunteers that serve because they want to. I doubt that anyone on welfare would volunteer to get their ass shot off for a smaller paycheck than they already get on welfare. Just as in society in general, all military branches have among their members some liars, cheats, lunatics and otherwise weird people.

    I honor all honorable military service people. . Note that I said honorable, and I admit that there are some who aren’t. The honorable ones would never give, nor follow, an order to shoot American citizens. Thus, I’m not worried about the scenario described in the article.

    @Bob, it was not Bush that ordered confiscation of civilian weapons after Katrina, nor was the US military involved in any way. It was idiotic local New Orleans officials (all democrats, naturally) that ordered local law enforcement to do it. (These are the same types that avert their eyes from armed criminals and go after law abiding armed citizens that are trying to protect themselves and their property.)The cops were reluctant but did it anyway. Look it up, dude, and get your facts straight. I can tell from your remarks that you are an unhappy, unfulfilled liberal that shoots off “facts” based on nothing more than your opinion. BTW, I’m not a jug blower but I once played a mean harmonica.

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